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My husband doesn't reddit, so I'm posting for him. He got out of the military and is looking to go back to school. He's really interested in electronics and would like to go to school for that. He's looking at schools that are targeted towards working adults because he doesn't have time with his job to go to a traditional school.
After looking at ECPI, Devry and Excelsior, he was wondering what other schools were out there. ECPI is not ABET accredited and Devry's on campus program is, but they don't offer it in our area. Excelsior's online program is ABET accredited, but he hasn't heard much of that school so he's wary of getting a degree from there. Anyone graduate from that program? Is an Abet accreditation important to have? Any other suggestions for schools?
He doesn't have experience in the field other than tinkering around with broken videogames /arcade machines on his own. ABET is very important, a degree from a non-ABET accredited institution is no good. I would investigate local colleges for online classes and if they offer an engineering program. Submit a SMART transcript or whatever it is called for his particular branch so he can get some credit for his time in the military.
It would be a good idea to get all of the prerequisite classes taken care of online and some of the core classes on campus, most places offer night and weekend classes. If he is looking at electronics as in he wants to design them. Learning calc 1 2 3, differential equations etc. He better like math or learn to like it.
There are also AA degrees that focus on technical skills rather than engineering, just to keep that i mind. Also he should be able to use his GI bill for tuition, just be sure to read up on the GI bill and how to use it. I went to Excelsior. I graduated from Excelsior. I do not list it on my resume nor LinkedIn.I went back to college to attend another school after graduating Excelsior and getting poor results. One guy even laughed at me during an interview when I was trying to explain how Excelsior did their labs (online chemistry/physics-themed flash games you write reports on). My new collegewouldn't accept my credits from Excelsior due to 'not meeting standards for academic rigor.'
I restarted as a freshman and graduated with a BSEE 4 years later.The nicest thing I can say about it is that it is a garbage school. The final class I took was literally a semester devoted to writing a paper explaining why a degree from Excelsior was just as good as any other school.
No, seriously. It was a class teaching us how to justify our education as equivalent to a real school's.Luckily for me, I did all of that nonsense while on active duty so I was just wasting time and taxpayer dollars from TA. I used my GI bill to go to a real school.Schools like Excelsior prey on veterans with GI bills to waste. Avoid non-accredited colleges. Avoid for-profit colleges.First, most of them offer technologist or technician programs, not engineering programs. The job market is different and the career ceiling is lower.
Make sure you do your research about their difference.Second, for-profit schools are generally more expensive than most universities. Just because the military pays for it doesn't mean they aren't receiving a lot of money that your husband could use elsewhere to get better education.Third, those programs are generally non-ABET accredited. That means that credits are non-transferable and won't be recognized if he wants to get another degree or go to grad school elsewhere.Technologists are focused on hands-on work (compared to engineers) so lots of lab experience is necessary. How does he expect to acquire that through an online program? Will he buy the lab tools, software and equipment? That's thousands of dollars there.Without an ABET accredited engineering degree, the career opportunities are less.
Many managers will skip your resume as soon as they see Devry on it. Plus, if he ever decides to apply for a professional engineer license, most state boards won't recognize the degree at all.Read a little about ITT Tech, a school very similar to Devry. It had to shut down after the federal government decided to not grant any more loans to students attending there due to many irregularities (including false advertising their employment statistics). The school relied on people with federal aid or military to exist and filed for bankruptcy. One important thing to consider is whether your husband is interested in becoming and electrical engineer or an electrical engineering technologist.I could be out to lunch here, but in my experience if he's looking to work with electronics it might be a better path to go for a diploma from a community college instead of a degree.In Canada if you want to get a degree you go to university, where you get mostly education and some training, and if you want a diploma you go to college where you get mostly training and some education.
Rayman 2: the great escape pc download. Never attend a non abet college for Engineering. The degree will not be respected. I was also told by professors to not attend online only engineer degrees. Shows laziness to some professors. If he wish's to pursue this degree, physically attending an abet college is a must to show dedication.
Giana sisters: twisted dreams. Different professors have different opinions, but this is what I have heard from multiple professors. I was going for engineering, but switched to computer information systems. Also inform him that a degree in engineering is usually around 150 credit hours, which is 30 more then typical bachelors. If he wants to 'tinker' or do hands on work, As other stated, Have him look into programs for electronics technicians.
They do more hands on and assist engineers. The salary is pretty good too. I imagine he would be a able to find an accelerated program somewhere.
Your husband should consider the type of work he wants to do and that should influence his decision on the type of degree he should get. But one thing to remember is that initially getting an Associates degree won't prevent him from getting a Bachelors later on if that what he desires.Check out local community colleges if he wants to stay more hands-on. Aside from your typical Associates degrees they often have degree programs that are very much like trade schools. Those 2-year degrees often lead to jobs in the skilled trades and crafts. First: good luck. College is hard work, and getting a degree when you're working is way harder.
I couldn't finish out my program without quitting work. Having been in the military should be good prep for him, though.First-and-a-half: It's not what you're asking, but if he does well in the first couple of years, consider living as lean as you can while he concentrates on finishing out his degree at a brick & mortar school. This will be hard on you and on him, and harder yet if you have kids - but he'll get a degree all the quicker, and some campuses at least are friendly toward families with kids.Second: everything anyone has said about ABET accreditation, YES. I'm not currently hiring (one man shop), but if I were my response to a degree from a non-accredited school would be sympathies, not a job.Third: I just looked up Excelsior, and it's ABET accredited for an engineering technology BS - that's different from an EE degree. It's a good degree to get if you want to be a 'super technician', but it'll be hobbling if you want to be a real engineer.Fourth: What everyone has said about community college.
If you have one in your area, see if you can identify a brick & mortar school that accepts transfer credits from it (some do, some don't). In an integrated state system like Oregon, you can take your first two years at a community college, then transfer into a state school (OSU, OIT, or PSU for engineering in particular).It is very important, however, that you make sure the credits actually transfer - the last thing he wants to do is take a bunch of classes that do him no good. I am prior military (Marines) and hope I can shed some light. I was honorably discharged in 2012 and began attending college using the Post 9/11 GI Bill. I attend Clemson and so my BAH for the area is around $1350 a month. Additionally, since I did a kicker while in, I get an additional $450 a month.
I am graduating in May with a BS in Electrical Engineering. Here are a few types I have:1- Only attend ABET accredited universities2- Use the GI Bill, it pays for your tuition, books, and housing!3- Since he is prior military, he can attend any public university in any state and get the max in state tuition payment for school. For example, if a state's max is $10000, and the school he wants to attend is $10001, then he will only have to pay that 1 dollar.4- Most universities have great Veteran Student Organizations that really help with the transition.5- If you struggle in a class, the VA will hire you a tutor.
They don't want you to fail, or waste money.If may seem difficult at first, but it is totally worth it. The ability to attend a major university that is ABET accredited taking 12 hours and receiving a check around $1800 a month is great. I also work on campus and at a manufacturing plant just for extra cash. Hope this helps!.